As a reminder, here are the training details:

Topic: First Training | Holy Family (Orlando, FL)
Time: Sep 5, 2019 10:00 AM Eastern Time (US and Canada)

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Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

The Zoom meeting information is the same, but we have updated the date. Let us know if you have any other questions.

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

I am sorry that I did not send this email out yesterday, as I meant to. I was wondering when you would like to schedule our second training on the website. Ideally, you have been able to access the site and experiment with the site: making some pages, posts, uploading media, refamiliarizing yourself with the theme settings and menu areas. That way if there are any questions we can cover them at the beginning of the training. 

I know there was some discussion of tomorrow afternoon being a tentative option, does that still work? If that doesn't work or if it is too soon and you haven't had a chance to work on the website as much as you'd like, no judgment here. It can be overwhelming. Just let me know of dates and times that work best for you and we can schedule a time for our next training.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

That is okay that the training is not tomorrow. There are a lot of parts to the site and it can be a little overwhelming and it does take some time to go over the different parts of it. Just let me know when you find a time/date that works for everyone. 

As for the responses, thank you for getting back to me about those. It is nice to see that the solutions we have come up with will be right for the situation. An update to the Staff Page/Homily question, we will be able to make it so that you can choose between a priest or a deacon as the homilist, so it will take from the Staff lists and have a dropdown that will list them all. However, it will not have any visiting priests in the dropdown but will have the ability to add them in.

I have one question regarding the staff page though. If we add Msgr. Ennis to the Staff list, will you still want the three pastors, Pastor, and the two associates, to be on their own line or would you want Msgr. Ennis to be on the same line as the other priests. My idea of how to make the priests be three columns and the others in four was that there would be three categories for Staff: Priests, Deacons, and Administrative. The Priests category would display first, then the Deacons, both of which are under the heading of Pastoral Staff and then under the heading of Administrative Staff would display those in that category. 

The reason I ask is uniformity and consistency. The rest of the staff (Deacons and Administrative) displays in four columns (on desktop and most laptops) and having the priests display as two rows of three columns (if the other retired assisting priests are added) produces inconsistency on the page. We can do it either way: having the priests be three columns and then the deacons four columns with Msgr. Ennis as the first one in the "deacon" section or having the three current pastors (Pastor and Associates) on the first row in the first three columns and then Msgr. Ennis in the fourth column. Neither way is wrong and it is up to your preference.

Just let me know what you think and I will let the developer know. I wanted to just give you some ideas to think about. Either way, it will not affect the way that the homilies are done, which is a good thing.

Let me know what you think about the formatting of the Staff Page and when you are ready for the next training.

God Bless,

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

Sorry about the delayed response. I am glad to hear that the video is not "Jerky". The banner video should be optimized to the site. It should not be over 30 seconds long and file size should be around 20-40MB. That should give you enough parameters for Fermin to put something together. The file types that are preferred are .webm, .ogg, and .mp4 or .mov for the video.

How is editing the site coming along? Do you have a date and time that would work for everyone for the second training? I am pretty open this week for the second training. 

Let me know what you think about training dates and times!

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

Hi Christine,

That's more than okay! Thank you for letting me know. I look forward to your email at the end of the week.

Cody Armock

Not an issue with the delays. I understand how busy parish life can be.

As for the training time and calendar information, just let me know when you know more and have more of an idea about it. I appreciate the updates so far.

I am glad that you are getting practice with creating pages and jotting down notes and questions as you go. If you have any ones that pertain to many pages or anything, don't hesitate to ask them.

I will answer your questions so far via email, so that there is a written record of them and easier to keep track of my answers with my scattered brain!

Previews
If you have a page in draft mode, meaning that you haven't published it yet, you can preview the page. That will open a new tab with what the page will look like on the frontend. Make sure to continue editing the page in the other tab though and not by clicking the Edit Page in the Preview tab. Otherwise, this will create disparities for the page and nobody wants that. You can keep the preview tab open while you are editing the page in the backend. Once you want to preview the page again, click Save Draft by the preview button and refresh the preview page to see your changes.

Base Copy Font Color
Adjusting the Base Copy Font color can be done easily and uniformly across the site without having to go from page to page. It can be done in the code and updated across all pages relatively easily. Let me know what you decide.

Menu
I checked out the Hamburger menu and have made a to-do for the developer to fix the colors. Not sure what happened to it, but they will be fixed by the end of the week. 

Page Associations and Hierarchy
Creating parent and child pages will affect how they will appear in the list of all pages and will affect the breadcrumbs. They will not be added to the menu in that order automatically, however. You can add them to the menu in the hierarchical order and search through them by the hierarchy, but it is not automatic.

Development Site Links
Once we go live, the urls will change to be that of the live site, so continue to add links. They will be replaced once the site goes live.

Mockup Pages as Working Templates
You are able to edit those pages. The first block is in "Preview Mode", but you can edit it either in the Right Sidebar in the Backend or by clicking the Edit Pencil in the Bar at the top of the block. You can toggle between Preview Mode (a screen with an eye in it) and Edit Mode (the pencil). This way, you should be able to edit it. If it is preview mode, you can edit it in the right sidebar pane.

Deacon Spencer Silvers Staff Page
Can you clarify what you would like to happen here? Correct me if I am wrong, but if I am understanding you correctly, you want Deacon Spencer to just have one listing in the Staff Module, but want him to be in both the Deacon section and the Admin section?  Unfortunately, there is no way to do that. The closest would be to add his Maintenance Coordinator title to his Deacon Staff box. Otherwise, keeping it the way it is now, with two separate staff entries.

Homilies Page
This is a special page that is completely Dynamic and as such, its title is not editable directly through the backend. It is only editable in code. I have made a to-do for the developer to change the Page Title to "Mass Times & Homilies".

Group Ministry Template Pages
Just so I make the right change, you want to remove the Heading/text "Our....Ministries:" from the Group Ministries Template, so that the Picture buttons will move up slightly. So, just getting rid of that one line of text? We can definitely do that. I just want to make sure for my own sake before I make a to-do for the developer.

I hope that answers all your current questions. If I missed something or you need more clarification, let me know. 

Thank you,

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

Hello Christine,

Have you tried searching the pages in the Menu or looking through them by View All (page 1 or 2)? Sometimes they will be out of order if there are more than a few children under one parent. Unfortunately, that is a Wordpress issue and not something that we can fix. I did take a couple of random pages and did find them in the View All section of the Menu, so you may want to try that.

Thank you,
Cody Armock

Good Morning Christine,

That will happen when moving pages from one parent to the next, since it will mess with the URL, so instead of it being "holyfamilyorlando.diocesanweb.org/design-mockup/youth-ministry", it would be "holyfamilyorlando.diocesanweb.org/faith-formation/youth-ministry". The menu item is a link to that URL and since nothing is there, that is why the error occurred.

In order to fix that, just delete the invalid menu item and add the page again and put it where the other one was. Not too horrible! This is one of the reasons for the suggested sitemap; it makes it easier to make parent/child relationships without creating invalid menu items and redoing work! If things do need to change, it is a relatively simple fix. 

I hope that helps! You can't break the site passed the point of being fixed. That is not an invitation or challenge to try, but simply as an affirmation to experiment a little. 

Have a blessed day and let me know if you have any other questions!

Cody Armock

Hello Christine,

Great question! The reason why you cannot change the "youth_trashed" part of the slug or URL is that that part of the URL comes from the parent page. The URL can give you glimpses into seeing the hierarchy of the site. I can tell from that URL that the Faith Formation Page is the Parent for what used to be the Youth Ministry page before it was put into the trash and I can tell that the Youth Ministry Page is the parent page for Credo (HS). 

The way to change that URL would be to either switch the parent page for Credo (HS) to an active page (one that is not in the trash) or to go to the trash and restore the Youth Ministry page. Either way will fix the issue, it just depends on if you want that Youth Ministry page or not, which I would assume you didn't since it was trashed. So switching the parent page for Credo (HS) would probably be the best solution. After that, you should be able to add it to the menu without any problems.

Let me know if any of that was unclear or you need any more clarification!

Thank you,

Cody Armock

A call would be fine or if you want to do it during the next training, either one would be fine. I am here until 4pm EST today, so any time before that would be great. I am also available anytime tomorrow 9am-11:30am and 1pm-4pm EST, if that works better for you. 

Let me know what you would prefer!

Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

Hello Christine,

What do you mean by a slideshow exactly? Would it be of just pictures or would it need to have text as well? There is something called Envira Gallery, that we will cover in the second training. 

Envira galleries have the ability to make slideshows when an image is clicked, so the user can slide through the photos. There is not a way to add text to the image without it already being on the image. The simple answer is yes, but it depends on what you want to do. I hope that makes sense. 

I will go more in-depth in our next training about Envira Galleries and if desired, the possible pitfalls of sliders.

Let me know if you have any other questions!
Have a blessed weekend,

Cody Armock
Web Department, Diocesan
877-923-0777

I am glad that you understood my answer, even with all the qualifiers. It depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the slider, but Envira Gallery should do most, if not all, of what you would normally need for a slideshow while making your pictures look good. We will discuss it further in the second training.

Have a great weekend,
Cody Armock

Hello Everyone,

I was wondering if you had an idea of when would be a good time for the second training! Either next week or the week following perhaps. I just don't want things getting lost in the shuffle or to lose some of the learning from the first training session.

Let me know what days and times work for you!

Have a wonderful weekend,

Cody Armock

Hello Christine,

I have a training the 24th starting at 2pm, and it would probably be about 1.5 - 2 hours long for the second training, depending on the number of questions and things like that, but I could do 10am or 11am on the 24th if that would work for you.

Let me know, otherwise, we could do the following week if necessary.

Thank you,
Cody Armock

Thank you for the quick reply, Christine.

I will set it up for then and thank you for letting me know if something does arise between now and then.

Have a great weekend,

Cody Armock

Hello Christine,

That is fine. Just let me know when you are ready and we can set it up for then!

Cody Armock

Hello Lynn,

Under Appearance > Menus, I made the Top Menu Assigned to the Primary Location (Screenshot below). For whatever reason, it became unchecked, so all I had to do was check it. The Sidebar Menu is assigned to the Secondary and ShiftNav Menu Locations, so things should be set now.

Let me know if the issue persists.

Cody Armock

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Hello Lynn,

I have looked into your issue and part of it was that your role did not have permissions to input HTML, so that has been changed. Additionally, I don't know why but the quotation marks around the source were off for some reason, so I replaced those and that worked. 

Moreover, it is best practice with WordPress to put figure tags around iFrames and I added some HTML to make it responsive and make the iFrame just as big as it needs to be instead of having it as 100%, which caused it to line up in the middle and be different from the rest of the content on the page. In the end, the code looked something like this: 

<figure style="max-height: 80vh; max-width: 90vw;"><iframe src="https://leaders.formed.org/files/potw-vert.html" width="500" height="600" frameborder="0" style="border:0;"></iframe></figure>

The figure tag is just a container for the iFrame and can be styled out, so I have the max-height it can go as 80% of the screen's (viewport) height and the max-width of the iFrame being 90% of the screen's (viewport) width, that makes it responsive. I set the iFrames dimensions as 500x600px which is just slightly bigger the image with it is getting from formed.org. This may need to change if that Pick of the Week box changes. Frameborder and border:0 just eliminate the border around the iFrame.

The problem should be fixed now and it displays correctly with the given content it is pulling.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Cody Armock