Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego, CA)
Good morning Nichol,
I'm sorry about the delay in design. I assigned your designer yesterday
afternoon and made sure that he (Sam) would reach out to you by the end of
the week.
The sitemap and content structure are things I just wanted to get out of
the way so that the process for him would speed up a bit. That way, even
though you have not talked with a designer yet, we are still moving forward
and getting necessary issues worked out.
My apologies again for being a little bit bogged down in the design
department.
Veronica Alvarado
Web Department
Phone: 877-923-0777
Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
<https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:17 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The mega menu you gave an example of is one I planned to tell you about
> that I really liked. I think that’s a good solution. Do I need to approve
> the menu before I can be assigned a Designer?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2018 6:11 AM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Re: Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego,
> CA)
>
>
>
> Good morning Nichol,
>
>
>
> I see now that I linked the current sitemap twice. Here is the link for
> the proposed sitemap
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-leAkbDFA5-UUULknj1Fa3YZe8jeZQtxjfmA48piPwI/edit?usp=sharing>
> .
>
>
>
> 1. By saying 3 levels deep, I meant how it goes Serve, Christian
> Formation, then Bible Study. I think your categorization is absolutely
> perfect and will most definitely save a lot of headache for the menu. I
> know you have a lot of content, and there are many ways to display
> information in accordions (have staff & documents sections within pages,
> etc.). However, maybe we want to explore a mega menu for your ministries
> instead?
> Of course, if you prefer to have dropdowns, we can simply enlarge them
> a bit, so that moving your mouse slightly will not close the menu.
> 2. Thank you for explaining that to me! I was confused as to why
> Confirmation wasn't there, but I realize that I was thinking Sacramental
> Preparation for all sacraments.
> 3. While Bulletins, Contacts and Current Events are on the homepage,
> they also need a "View more" type of page that can be accessible at any
> time. By adding it to the menu, we can remove the extra homepage click to
> get there.
> As for Photos, I left them under Welcome > Media Center, but it could
> always be moved to under the News & Events section that I added to the
> proposed sitemap.
>
> Again, all of this is up to you, we are just here to give our suggestions
> based on our experience with other parishes.
>
> We completely understand that you know the needs of your parish.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:25 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Can you tell me what you moved? I can’t tell.
>
>
>
> 1. I don’t think we have anything 3 levels deep, do we? And aren’t
> buttons and landing pages really the same thing? For example this is very
> similar to your button example:
> https://www.stgg.org/home/grow-in-faith/sacraments . Or maybe you are
> recommending that I hide the individual sacraments from the menu so they
> can’t go directly there? The accordions wouldn’t work for us – they are
> too simplified and not enough room for content.
>
>
>
> 2. Confirmation Preparation and Sacramental Preparation are not
> duplicates, they are two very different ministries. Sacramental
> Preparation is for First Eucharist.
>
>
>
> 3. Bulletins, Contacts, and Current Events are already on the homepage
> – but maybe you don’t like our format? Where do you suggest photos to go?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 12:26 PM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Re: Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego,
> CA)
>
>
>
> I did move a few things (click here to see proposed sitema
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mRJT9El5BrICr1s2O9J-RQpfjeebg5dYnBGvwXd2-JA/edit?usp=sharing>p)
> around and here are my reasons:
>
>
>
> *1. Menu Items 3 Levels Deep*
>
> Menus with 3 levels are difficult to navigate (move your mouse slightly
> and have to start over again) and these 3rd level pages typically only have
> a small amount of information (example: Blood Drive)
>
> At Diocesan, we find a better solution that removes that third layer in
> the menu, displays the content they are looking for, AND it allows visitors
> to be aware of other items/ministries that they would not have otherwise
> clicked on.
> An example of how we do this is either by using buttons
> <https://stlouischurchmphs.org/sacraments/>or accordions
> <https://sacredheartsouthport.org/ministries/>within pages, which can be
> styled any number of ways.
>
> *2. Duplicate Items*
>
> While having items in multiple places in the menu may seem helpful, they
> actually tend to confuse parishioners.
> For example, I wouldn't know that Confirmation Preparation is under Youth,
> yet Sacramental Preparation is under Faith Formation.
>
>
>
> 3. Menu Heading Simplification
>
> Although Calendars works great for just calendars, there is nowhere to
> find parish news, and currently, the bulletins and photos/videos are under
> welcome.
>
> Along the same lines, Contact should always be in the main header and we
> make sure to include the contact information, an embedded Google map and an
> online contact form for you.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have any questions, I will be in my office from Tuesday-Friday of
> next week.
>
> Also, I will most definitely visit St. Gregory the Great next time I am in
> San Diego! My friend just moved there so I am hoping to go and visit soon!
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:38 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The sitemap looks good, thank you. Our website was completely redesigned
> 3 years ago, so not too many changes need to be made. If you have
> suggestions we can talk about them.
>
>
>
> Thanks and please visit us the next time you are here. J
>
>
>
> Blessings, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego, CA)
>
>
>
> Hello Nichol!
>
>
>
> It's been a couple weeks since I have talked to you, but I am so glad that
> ended up going with our website services! As a Catholic communications
> company, we certainly do our best to help you spread the faith and
> administer to your parishioners, while also remaining helpful and welcoming
> to any visitors.
>
>
>
> After seeing your gorgeous church, I'm a little sad that I went to a
> different church when I was in San Diego last. (I went to Our Lady of
> Guadalupe because it was the closest to where I was staying.)
>
>
>
> So before we begin with a designer, is your current sitemap up-to-date? (Click
> to see current sitemap.)
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mRJT9El5BrICr1s2O9J-RQpfjeebg5dYnBGvwXd2-JA/edit?usp=sharing>
>
>
> Please feel free to delete or add any items that you would like added.
> From there, I will create a proposed sitemap that will make it easier for
> your visitors to navigate and find what they need.
>
>
>
> Thank you and let me know if you have any questions!
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>
I'm sorry about the delay in design. I assigned your designer yesterday
afternoon and made sure that he (Sam) would reach out to you by the end of
the week.
The sitemap and content structure are things I just wanted to get out of
the way so that the process for him would speed up a bit. That way, even
though you have not talked with a designer yet, we are still moving forward
and getting necessary issues worked out.
My apologies again for being a little bit bogged down in the design
department.
Veronica Alvarado
Web Department
Phone: 877-923-0777
Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
<https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 6:17 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The mega menu you gave an example of is one I planned to tell you about
> that I really liked. I think that’s a good solution. Do I need to approve
> the menu before I can be assigned a Designer?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2018 6:11 AM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Re: Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego,
> CA)
>
>
>
> Good morning Nichol,
>
>
>
> I see now that I linked the current sitemap twice. Here is the link for
> the proposed sitemap
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-leAkbDFA5-UUULknj1Fa3YZe8jeZQtxjfmA48piPwI/edit?usp=sharing>
> .
>
>
>
> 1. By saying 3 levels deep, I meant how it goes Serve, Christian
> Formation, then Bible Study. I think your categorization is absolutely
> perfect and will most definitely save a lot of headache for the menu. I
> know you have a lot of content, and there are many ways to display
> information in accordions (have staff & documents sections within pages,
> etc.). However, maybe we want to explore a mega menu for your ministries
> instead?
> Of course, if you prefer to have dropdowns, we can simply enlarge them
> a bit, so that moving your mouse slightly will not close the menu.
> 2. Thank you for explaining that to me! I was confused as to why
> Confirmation wasn't there, but I realize that I was thinking Sacramental
> Preparation for all sacraments.
> 3. While Bulletins, Contacts and Current Events are on the homepage,
> they also need a "View more" type of page that can be accessible at any
> time. By adding it to the menu, we can remove the extra homepage click to
> get there.
> As for Photos, I left them under Welcome > Media Center, but it could
> always be moved to under the News & Events section that I added to the
> proposed sitemap.
>
> Again, all of this is up to you, we are just here to give our suggestions
> based on our experience with other parishes.
>
> We completely understand that you know the needs of your parish.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 4:25 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Can you tell me what you moved? I can’t tell.
>
>
>
> 1. I don’t think we have anything 3 levels deep, do we? And aren’t
> buttons and landing pages really the same thing? For example this is very
> similar to your button example:
> https://www.stgg.org/home/grow-in-faith/sacraments . Or maybe you are
> recommending that I hide the individual sacraments from the menu so they
> can’t go directly there? The accordions wouldn’t work for us – they are
> too simplified and not enough room for content.
>
>
>
> 2. Confirmation Preparation and Sacramental Preparation are not
> duplicates, they are two very different ministries. Sacramental
> Preparation is for First Eucharist.
>
>
>
> 3. Bulletins, Contacts, and Current Events are already on the homepage
> – but maybe you don’t like our format? Where do you suggest photos to go?
>
>
>
> Thanks, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2018 12:26 PM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Re: Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego,
> CA)
>
>
>
> I did move a few things (click here to see proposed sitema
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mRJT9El5BrICr1s2O9J-RQpfjeebg5dYnBGvwXd2-JA/edit?usp=sharing>p)
> around and here are my reasons:
>
>
>
> *1. Menu Items 3 Levels Deep*
>
> Menus with 3 levels are difficult to navigate (move your mouse slightly
> and have to start over again) and these 3rd level pages typically only have
> a small amount of information (example: Blood Drive)
>
> At Diocesan, we find a better solution that removes that third layer in
> the menu, displays the content they are looking for, AND it allows visitors
> to be aware of other items/ministries that they would not have otherwise
> clicked on.
> An example of how we do this is either by using buttons
> <https://stlouischurchmphs.org/sacraments/>or accordions
> <https://sacredheartsouthport.org/ministries/>within pages, which can be
> styled any number of ways.
>
> *2. Duplicate Items*
>
> While having items in multiple places in the menu may seem helpful, they
> actually tend to confuse parishioners.
> For example, I wouldn't know that Confirmation Preparation is under Youth,
> yet Sacramental Preparation is under Faith Formation.
>
>
>
> 3. Menu Heading Simplification
>
> Although Calendars works great for just calendars, there is nowhere to
> find parish news, and currently, the bulletins and photos/videos are under
> welcome.
>
> Along the same lines, Contact should always be in the main header and we
> make sure to include the contact information, an embedded Google map and an
> online contact form for you.
>
>
>
>
>
> If you have any questions, I will be in my office from Tuesday-Friday of
> next week.
>
> Also, I will most definitely visit St. Gregory the Great next time I am in
> San Diego! My friend just moved there so I am hoping to go and visit soon!
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 1:38 PM Nichol Swift <nswift@stgg.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> The sitemap looks good, thank you. Our website was completely redesigned
> 3 years ago, so not too many changes need to be made. If you have
> suggestions we can talk about them.
>
>
>
> Thanks and please visit us the next time you are here. J
>
>
>
> Blessings, Nichol
>
>
>
> *From:* Veronica Alvarado [mailto:valvarado@diocesan.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:19 AM
> *To:* Nichol Swift
> *Subject:* Content Strategy for Saint Gregory the Great (San Diego, CA)
>
>
>
> Hello Nichol!
>
>
>
> It's been a couple weeks since I have talked to you, but I am so glad that
> ended up going with our website services! As a Catholic communications
> company, we certainly do our best to help you spread the faith and
> administer to your parishioners, while also remaining helpful and welcoming
> to any visitors.
>
>
>
> After seeing your gorgeous church, I'm a little sad that I went to a
> different church when I was in San Diego last. (I went to Our Lady of
> Guadalupe because it was the closest to where I was staying.)
>
>
>
> So before we begin with a designer, is your current sitemap up-to-date? (Click
> to see current sitemap.)
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mRJT9El5BrICr1s2O9J-RQpfjeebg5dYnBGvwXd2-JA/edit?usp=sharing>
>
>
> Please feel free to delete or add any items that you would like added.
> From there, I will create a proposed sitemap that will make it easier for
> your visitors to navigate and find what they need.
>
>
>
> Thank you and let me know if you have any questions!
>
>
>
> Veronica Alvarado
> Web Department
>
> Phone: 877-923-0777
> Diocesan.com <http://www.diocesan.com>
>
>
> <https://t.xink.io/Tracking/Index/18EBAGWmAAC5YjAA0>
>
>